Q1. You’ve been working in the Trading Tech and Quant Development space for the last 20+ years. What are the main lessons you’ve learned through this experience?
Jad Sarmo: Back in 2004, I deployed the first automated trading system (ATS) for foreign exchange at a top-tier bank. We had to build software directly on traders’ workstations to send algorithmic orders—latency was measured in hundreds of milliseconds.
Since then, the landscape has evolved dramatically: the proliferation of low-latency submarine fiber-optic cables, high-frequency signals bouncing off the ionosphere, the emergence of cloud computing, AI-assisted development, the rise of blockchain, and
Jad Sarmo: Back in 2004, I deployed the first automated trading system (ATS) for foreign exchange at a top-tier bank. We had to build software directly on traders’ workstations to send algorithmic orders—latency was measured in hundreds of milliseconds.
Since then, the landscape has evolved dramatically: the proliferation of low-latency submarine fiber-optic cables, high-frequency signals bouncing off the ionosphere, the emergence of cloud computing, AI-assisted development, the rise of blockchain, and
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R1. Djoc kt rozv iruc lc Z1A5?
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