„EPDM-Bahnen sind im Bereich von Leichtdachbauten ein Qualitätsprodukt und stellen eine wirtschaftliche Alternative zu mehrlagigen Bitumenaufbauten dar.“
Die Koch-Gruppe hat sich deutschlandweit zu einem führenden Unternehmen und Spezialisten für Dachabdichtungen, Trapezblech- und Fassadenarbeiten entwickelt. Das Unternehmen Koch im nördlichen Rheinland-Pfalz blickt nicht nur auf eine lange Tradition von mehr als 140 Jahren Dachdeckerhandwerk zurück, sondern auch in die Zukunft mit vielen Innovationen und Ideenreichtum. Stefan Neubauer sprach für die EPDM Gesellschaft mit Klaus Koch und seinen Söhnen Thorsten und Mathias Koch, die seit 2019 als eingetragene Geschäftsführer der Koch-Gruppe die Geschicke des Unternehmens mitgestalten.
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Die Koch-Gruppe hat sich deutschlandweit zu einem führenden Unternehmen und Spezialisten für Dachabdichtungen, Trapezblech- und Fassadenarbeiten entwickelt. Das Unternehmen Koch im nördlichen Rheinland-Pfalz blickt nicht nur auf eine lange Tradition von mehr als 140 Jahren Dachdeckerhandwerk zurück, sondern auch in die Zukunft mit vielen Innovationen und Ideenreichtum. Stefan Neubauer sprach für die EPDM Gesellschaft mit Klaus Koch und seinen Söhnen Thorsten und Mathias Koch, die seit 2019 als eingetragene Geschäftsführer der Koch-Gruppe die Geschicke des Unternehmens mitgestalten.
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